Name a NON TURBO hot hatch produced before 2004

"@rbalch1" (rbalch1) 01/19/2014 at 03:02 • Filed to: None

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Such as the ford laser sr2
focus st170
mazda 323sp20

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 03:28

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promoted by the color red > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 03:29

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GTI VR6: 19mpg combined ftw!

Civic Type-R: 197HP and crazy-high revs

KnowsAboutCars > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 03:35

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Renault Clio Williams

Peugeot 205 GTI

Peugeot 309 GTI

GhostZ > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 03:42

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3.0 SOHC V6

24V 3.0l V6

1.8l DOHC

Jobjoris > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 03:46

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Just one? Every European manufacturer had one somewhere before 2004. Fond memories to:

Jobjoris > KnowsAboutCars 01/19/2014 at 03:48

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Picture is showing a post-2004 8th generation Civic.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 03:50

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1) All Golf GTIs before Mk4 and the Mk4 VR6 GTI

2) Peugeot 205/206 GTI

3) Pre-Mk7 Fiesta ST

4) This cuts a but past 2004 but the Chevrolet Malibu Maxx SS

5) Geo Storm GSi (0-60 in 7.1 seconds, it's a hot hatch)

6) Mazda MX-3

7) Matra Murena-Talbot

8) Talbot Sunbeam Lotus

9) Renault Clio Williams/Renaultsport Clio/Clio Cup

10) Renault Twingo Cup

11) Citroen C2/C4/Xsara VTS

Some are less "hatch" than others but I believe all of these are FF hatch-like compacts at minimum with NA power.

KnowsAboutCars > Jobjoris 01/19/2014 at 03:51

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I first read the headline as after 2004.

Aaron James > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 03:52

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Ford Escort

briannutter1 > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 04:08

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Civic si. Peugeot 206. Fx16 toyota. Cavalier z16.

M54B30 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 01/19/2014 at 04:24

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4 - really?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > M54B30 01/19/2014 at 04:46

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It's the hottest hatch GM ever made.

Babz > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 05:17

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Renault Clio Williams ?

Renault Clio V6 ?

Dann > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 05:22

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Suzuki Swift GTi

m2m, apex detective > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 05:36

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Toyota Corolla TS/T-Sport hatchback?

Echo51 > Aaron James 01/19/2014 at 05:41

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xr3, xr3i and RS2000 of a later model indeed were a hot bunch :)

Aaron James > Echo51 01/19/2014 at 05:46

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yeah, I should have done a better search to fulfill the "hot" descriptor. There have been several fun escorts over the years.

Echo51 > Aaron James 01/19/2014 at 05:50

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Honestly i think an RS2000 4x4 of the last model could've been a fun quattro-like machine. For snow and all you know :D

@rbalch1 > m2m, apex detective 01/19/2014 at 05:54

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how about a bora 2.8 VR6 4 Motion
or the v5

Dann > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 06:02

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Opel/Vauxhall Corsa B GSi / Holden SB Barina GSi

Vauxhall/Opel Corsa C SRi / Holden XC Barina SRi

Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno

Toyota AE93 Corolla GTi

davedave1111 > GhostZ 01/19/2014 at 06:14

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Would you call the Pulsar a hatchback? I'd say it's more of a coupe. But if we're counting a mid-engine Clio as a hot hatch, who knows.

Alex87f > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 06:39

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Peugeot 306 S16: 2.0 liter, 167hp, 6MT

106 S16: 1.6 liter, 120hp but less than 2 200lbs

Mini Cooper S: 1.6 liter supercharged four!

Alfa 147 GTA: 3.2 liter V6 with 250hp

BMW 325ti: A shortened 325i with a hatch and two doors

GhostZ > davedave1111 01/19/2014 at 07:56

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If you call a "compact 2-door car with a lifting rear hatch" a hatchback, then yes, it is. But then so is a Mustang II or 240Z, technically.

I think the more 'strict' definition has been that it has to be a FWD 2-door car based on a sedan platform, with a transverse mounted engine.

samssun > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 08:23

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350Z. 300ZX NA. No complaining if your answer was FWD.

VCustoms > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 08:25

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Ford Probe GT 2.5 V6, technically a hatchback.

duurtlang > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 09:22

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Almost all hot hatches before 2004 didn't have a turbo, and most manufacturers offered a few. You can post almost everything here.

crowmolly > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 09:31

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'73 Nova SS hatch. That counts. Right? LOL.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 09:37

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The EP3 Civic Type-R was born in 2002.

Atomic Buffalo > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 10:11

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1989 Isuzu I-Mark RS

Jobjoris > GhostZ 01/19/2014 at 10:49

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I don't think the FWD-part has anything to with being an 'hatchback'? Otherwise the brilliant Talbot Lotus Sunbeam isn't no longer a hot-hatch (which it clearly is when looking at it and knowing the specifications):

GhostZ > Jobjoris 01/19/2014 at 10:55

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I don't agree either, but the modern connotation sort of took over when everyone stopped making RWD hatchbacks in the 90s.

davedave1111 > GhostZ 01/19/2014 at 12:48

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Well, some cars fit right into a single category, others blur the borders. Because it doesn't have an entirely separate boot, you can argue this is a hatch, but I take one look at it and say that's clearly a coupe shape.

The Scirocco and 944 are definitely coupes too, even though they have a hatch-like shape. I'm confused...

Greasemonkey > @rbalch1 01/19/2014 at 17:23

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Vega GT

Pinto:

King Cobra:

Pacer X:

/amidoingitrite

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > samssun 01/19/2014 at 18:00

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Those aren't hot hatchbacks.

samssun > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) 01/19/2014 at 19:25

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Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > samssun 01/19/2014 at 19:38

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It's a hatchback, but it isn't a "hot hatch".

KJabs got a Chevy SS!!! - no longer needs a Pontiac G8 > @rbalch1 01/20/2014 at 06:05

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2003 Toyota Matrix XRS

wizkashifa > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 01/24/2014 at 10:27

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Opel/Vauxhall Astra OPC.

crowmolly > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 02/03/2014 at 10:19

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themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > crowmolly 02/03/2014 at 10:25

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Not really a "hatch" just a large opening for the trunk.